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Looks like SA caps will probably fit these and should suit them nicely

okay. the video was a hands-on not a review. just a first impression but I hadn't time to post a full review.


Well, nice little "hands-on" then :)


The switch has indeed a ridge and they are "mountable" on a 1.3mm plate. I say it between "" because you'd need very specifically crafted keycaps ...

Matt3o, nice little review, I am VERY interested in these switches (along with the MX stemmed "Alps" i-Rocks switches).

Just a couple of related points:

These versions are plate mountable. They have a flat ridge around the base and little clips to lock into a plate, but it looks like it's ...

It is being sold on Massdrop currently in packs of 110 pieces, some guy posted this video link on its discussion section https://vid.me/FZQ6 . Seems to dampen upstroke but I don't understand how it does.

It clips onto the switch itself and the flat part of the top of the slider hits the bottom of ...

MX: just keep modding. It asymptotes towards good somewhere…

Funny.... but true, unfortunately. I have to do 5 mods to Clears to get them to "good" level (springs, shaved sliders, stickers, trampolines, latex), whereas with Zealios I "only" have to do 3 mods (trampolines, latex, copper tape).

My ...

Trampoline and latex mod your favourite MX board: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50 ... msg1269525



Of course it won't make Blues or Greens quiet, but it works great for tactile and linear switches.

Very interesting, and very nice, too :)

SP have their ears on. Could this be a new age of SP being responsive to the community?


In this day and age if a Company refuses to listen to their customers they will ultimately go elsewhere to get their fix.

Glad SP was smart enough to actually do ...

About the colours, Krogenar's scans hosted by mashby on his Flickr account and the DT wiki ABS colours (which are actually photospectrometer samples of the colour chips, converted to sRGB so they display correctly, done by Ian Prest) are the most accurate source for comparisons out there. Nothing ...

First GB to use these in now live on Massdrop: http://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/t ... 12030.html

Typically DT for this to go so off-topic, I love it!

Anyhow: This is officially the first set which will run with the new Row 4 SHIFT molds (with updated, "fixed" SHIFT legends that have better kerning)!

Get it while it's hot... Or at least, get it while it's available to order on Massdrop ;)

Thanks for the pics, that looks pretty good, but a little too close to each other for my taste. Great to know they can do it if pushed :D Interested to see what their own version looks like.

The line thickness should be specified in inches, not points:

0.100" and 0.125" Upper Case Characters: 0 ...

Very interesting, and very nice, too

SP have their ears on. Could this be a new age of SP being responsive to the community?

Okay... officially, 0.015" is the minimum, with 0.020" being considered "safe". It may be that the actual molded cap has slightly smaller gaps than 0.015" due to distortion and remelting during second shot molding. This seems to be what happened to the SA Nuka Cola legends. The actual SVG has 0.015 ...

Well, I imagine if they create two packs, then they will get manufactured according to the new scheme whereby pre-orders interest check votes will tip production as demand dictates. Consequently, it could be a while before the odd sizes cross a production threshold, given the significantly lower ...

I see. Thank you. To be honest, I don't see that one as being considered "best" by general community concensus. More likely the 50% one. Actually even the 75% one looks good to me, but that's just my personal view and I think the 50% one would be most likely to be accepted as "best" (possibly with ...

zslane, do you mind posting the file you sent to SP? Does it match any of the OP images? What was the final gap between the F and T?

I'm trying to nail down the real gap limitations and SP are giving me the runaround on it. They state 0.015" now as the absolute minimum, but from what I can tell ...

Good news, team!

After a number of emails back and forth between myself and Melissa and some hard work done by the Signature Plastics engineers and toolmakers, we finally have semi-matte Row 4 Shift molds available for SA profile!

2.75 Shift.jpg

Melissa is trying to schedule running both ...

Hmmm... I still prefer the trampoline mod: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50632.0

Plate mount compatible and keycap-independent.

That SHIFT needs serious work. The white space around the I is minuscule, but you could park a truck between F and T.

The long topped F is dumb for doubleshot anyway. Shorten it and improve everything!

Shorten it and it doesn't match all the other font characters... I agree, the kerning needs ...

Hi guys!

I'm going to add some more controversy... While going through the various specifications for legend cutting I came across this line:

"On any 2-shot legend, there needs to be a minimum space of 0.020" to 0.035", depending on the
cutter thickness (line thickness) between characters and ...

What you done need now is one o' dese thingumajiggers:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Grass-Valley-Group-VPE-151-Studio-Broadcast-Video-Production-Editor-Interface-3U/151830235421?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33200%26meid ...

My ideal keyboard would have buckling spring switches, red caps, and a black case. It would be as narrow as a 60% but have all the keys of an SSK.
keyboard-layout.png

This is really nice! Compact and yet somehow also classic. I like it a lot. It has a dedicated upside down T arrow cluster ...

Since I posted about the Row 4 SHIFTS here first, I will leave this here:

"We are just finishing polishing the 2.25 tooling and should have it ready to
test by the end of the week. The 2.75 is still in 'rough' core block stage
and needs to be sent to our tool maker to burn the cavity. This will ...

These are now confirmed by SP:

1. Legends are cut in "negative", so you're cutting away the material of the legend itself, not "positive" where you cut away the surrounding area and leave the legend itself standing.
2. There are two ways that SP uses to cut legends.
3. The first is using a simple ...

Hey Oobly, check http://cache.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/data_sheet/KL27P64M48SF6.pdf?fpsp=1&WT_TYPE=Data%20Sheets&WT_VENDOR=FREESCALE&WT_FILE_FORMAT=pdf&WT_ASSET=Documentation&fileExt=.pdf - thats the MKL27 I've successfully prototyped using its inbuilt regulator.
Not sure where you're looking ...

Ah, bollocks! Seems the MKL27z doesn't have the voltage regulator built in like the 26z does. So it needs external 3.3v power supply. I may stick with the 26z if I can get a good bootloader working.

I got my Teensy's from here: http://floris.cc/shop/en/teensy/952-teensy-3e.html

Thanks, I didn't know about this page. It seems that KL27Z does have a bootloader in ROM - Good! Finally, Freescale. If it works reasonably, it might end up being the ideal chip for keyboards. Also using it should be an easy upgrade from KL26Z/Teensy LC. (Hopefully there'll be a LQFP-48 version of ...

I believe the Freescale Kinetis MKL range can do USB fine without a crystal, you just have to initialise it to use the internal 48MHz clock and enable the USB clock recovery feature: cache.freescale.com/files/microcontrollers/doc/app_note/AN4905.pdf

"3.1 USB device mode clocking initialization ...

7bit, please don't wikify until I've confirmed with SP. This should happen really soon, though, as part of getting all my ducks in a row to get this font initiative going.

I'm happy to be involved in this as I am already involved in both a fonts discussion and another SA Shift-related issue with SP ...